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As long as there's documentation, I'd rather + deal with the byproducts of progress than a crippled interface. + - Distro packaging. + - Internal details of how PyCrypto works, as long as it fulfills the + above wishlist. + - Legacy Python versions (your definition matches mine). + - License, so long as I can use it from an LGPL package (which seems + compatible with Apache2) + + +Hopefully this feedback helps! + +Philip Horger + + +On Tue, Oct 29, 2013 at 11:58 PM, Dave Pawson <<A HREF="http://lists.dlitz.net/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pycrypto">dave.pawson at gmail.com</A>> wrote: + +><i> On 30 October 2013 06:09, Dwayne Litzenberger <<A HREF="http://lists.dlitz.net/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pycrypto">dlitz at dlitz.net</A>> wrote: +</I>><i> +</I>><i> > 1. How many of you would really care if PyCrypto 2.6 was that last +</I>><i> > version to support legacy versions of Python? By "legacy", I mean all +</I>><i> > versions of Python that are NOT one of these: +</I>><i> > +</I>><i> > - Python 2.6.x +</I>><i> > - Python 2.7.x +</I>><i> > - Python 3.3 and above. +</I>><i> > +</I>><i> > I'd continue to make bugfix releases of PyCrypto 2.6.x, but add no +</I>><i> > more substantial new features. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> For some reason, Fedora is still pushing Python 2.7, so I'd be happy +</I>><i> with this position. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> +</I>><i> +</I>><i> +</I>><i> > 4. What if Crypto.* became a wrapper around some other crypto library? +</I>><i> +</I>><i> What logic please? +</I>><i> +</I>><i> +</I>><i> +</I>><i> > Of particular concern is FOSS distributors packaging PyCrypto (e.g. +</I>><i> Linux +</I>><i> > distros, *BSD ports trees, MacPorts/HomeBrew, etc.), and anything else +</I>><i> that +</I>><i> > might impact a large number of downstream end-users. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Fedora seems a long way behind with the Python versions. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> +</I>><i> > +</I>><i> > I'm beginning to wonder how the risk of downstream forks compares to the +</I>><i> > risks that users face when developers still don't have a highly-visible, +</I>><i> > easy-to-use Python crypto API. It might be better to merge PyCrypto with +</I>><i> > one or more other Python crypto libraries... +</I>><i> +</I>><i> I'll leave that to the more knowledgable. +</I>><i> My position is I'm grateful for the code - meets my needs. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> regards +</I>><i> +</I>><i> +</I>><i> -- +</I>><i> Dave Pawson +</I>><i> XSLT XSL-FO FAQ. +</I>><i> Docbook FAQ. +</I>><i> <A HREF="http://www.dpawson.co.uk">http://www.dpawson.co.uk</A> +</I>><i> _______________________________________________ +</I>><i> pycrypto mailing list +</I>><i> <A HREF="http://lists.dlitz.net/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pycrypto">pycrypto at lists.dlitz.net</A> +</I>><i> <A HREF="http://lists.dlitz.net/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pycrypto">http://lists.dlitz.net/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pycrypto</A> +</I>><i> +</I>-------------- next part -------------- +An HTML attachment was scrubbed... +URL: <<A HREF="http://lists.dlitz.net/pipermail/pycrypto/attachments/20131030/fecad754/attachment.html">http://lists.dlitz.net/pipermail/pycrypto/attachments/20131030/fecad754/attachment.html</A>> +</PRE> + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="000718.html">[pycrypto] Need your input: Major modernization; dropping legacy Python support? +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="000720.html">[pycrypto] Need your input: Major modernization; dropping legacy Python support? +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#719">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#719">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#719">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#719">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="http://lists.dlitz.net/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pycrypto">More information about the pycrypto +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> |