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authorAlexandre Oliva <oliva@dcc.unicamp.br>1998-11-04 03:54:09 +0000
committerAlexandre Oliva <aoliva@redhat.com>1998-11-04 03:54:09 +0000
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+From: Ian Lance Taylor <ian@cygnus.com>
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+Subject: Re: Inter-library dependencies in libtool
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+ Date: Tue, 03 Nov 1998 17:38:13 +0000
+ From: "Gary V. Vaughan" <gvaughan@oranda.demon.co.uk>
+
+ It would seem that the dll code has bitrotted =(O| Pity. Ian, do you
+ have time/want to fix this, or do you want to pass the torch on?
+
+I no longer have access to a Windows machine, nor do I have all that
+much interest in the problem, so I'd say that somebody else had better
+pick up the torch.
+
+Incidentally, I believe that DJ Delorie is working on adding DLL
+support directly to ld, which will mean that dlltool is no longer
+required, and should make it possible to greatly simplify the win32
+hacks in dlltool, perhaps even simply using the standard GNU ld code.
+
+ Shouldn't libtool notice that it is running on cygwin32 and pass the
+ -no-undefined option by itself? It seems to go against the raison
+ d'etre for libtool to force the Makefile developer to figure this out...
+
+This kind of goes to the heart of libtool. libtool wants to present a
+particular interface for using shared libraries. In order to do this,
+it assumes that the system supports certain capabilities. One of
+those is that the system can support undefined symbols in shared
+libraries.
+
+That means that on systems which do not permit shared libraries to
+have undefined symbols--AIX and Windows--libtool doesn't really work.
+
+The --no-undefined option is a hack which tells libtool that the
+shared library has special characteristics which permit libtool to
+create a shared library on AIX or Windows, or any other supported
+platform.
+
+I think the general idea is that you should use the --no-undefined
+option whenever possible. If you do, you will be able to create
+shared libraries on AIX and Windows. If you do not or can not, you
+will not be able to create them.
+
+libtool should not add a --no-undefined option itself. If it used
+that option inappropriately, then building the shared library would
+fail. Instead, libtool users should always use --no-undefined if they
+can.
+
+Of course, there are problems. For example, in the GNU binutils, I
+can arrange matters such that --no-undefined will work on Windows, but
+to do so I have to link various libraries together and I have to link
+against special Windows system libraries. So I do that, which means
+that I have to change the options I pass to libtool based on the
+system.
+
+In other words, the interface which libtool presents is deficient. It
+does not successfully hide the system on which it is running, and it
+forces the code which calls libtool to make adjustments.
+
+I doubt there is any wholly acceptable solution here. The only
+workable one I can see would be to effectively enhance Windows and AIX
+shared libraries such that they support creating shared libraries with
+undefined symbols. On Windows, this could be done by doing the link
+once, checking for undefined symbols, creating little stub routines
+for those symbols which track down the symbols in some other open DLL,
+compiling those stubs, and linking them into the DLL. Perhaps
+something similar is possible on AIX.
+
+Of course even that will not make Windows DLLs identical to ELF shared
+libraries. ELF shared libraries permit the main program to override a
+symbol in the shared library, and Windows DLLs do not.
+
+Ian
+