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diff --git a/www/testimonial-notes.txt b/www/testimonial-notes.txt deleted file mode 100644 index 3f9c9d4..0000000 --- a/www/testimonial-notes.txt +++ /dev/null @@ -1,280 +0,0 @@ - -http://groups.google.com/group/comp.lang.python/tree/browse_frm/thread/f063406b648c7d0c/d482be4e9971afe4?rnum=11&q=cheetah+template&_done=%2Fgroup%2Fcomp.lang.python%2Fbrowse_frm%2Fthread%2Ff063406b648c7d0c%2F369b62036e2953ed%3Flnk%3Dst%26q%3Dcheetah+template%26rnum%3D1%26#doc_369b62036e2953ed -> A cheetah template -> can inherit from a python class, or a cheetah template, and a Python -> class can inherit from a cheetah template. This brings the full power -> of OO programming facilities to the templating system, and is simply -> blows away other templating systems -- Mike Meyer -............ - -http://groups.google.com/group/comp.lang.python/tree/browse_frm/thread/6ac8c68b6060003e/f3a99fd7ec17d6d5?rnum=1&q=cheetah+template&_done=%2Fgroup%2Fcomp.lang.python%2Fbrowse_frm%2Fthread%2F6ac8c68b6060003e%2F40fe71c3d3ab0bd8%3Flnk%3Dst%26q%3Dcheetah+template%26rnum%3D22%26#doc_40fe71c3d3ab0bd8 ------Original Message----- -From: Wilk [mailto:wilkS...@OUTflibuste.net] -Sent: 04 January 2004 13:38 -To: python-l...@python.org -Subject: Re: Cheetah best for templating? - -"Roger Jack" <r...@elegancetech.com> writes: - -> I have just finished reading Code Generation In Action which uses Ruby for -> code generation. I would like to use Python instead. Is Cheetah the best -> tool to use for templating source code files and then generating code? Is -> there something more mature or better? - -My graphist and me found it excellent, fast, clear, simple, stable: Pythonic! - -We found the others engines too verbose, more perlish ;-) - -Like python, the best is to try somes engines, you will see quickly wich -one you need. First, like everybody, i did my own engine, but Cheetah -was finaly a better wheel ! - -I use it to generate html, latex and xml - -................ -http://groups.google.com/group/subway-devel/tree/browse_frm/thread/899aff22ec0cc229/c46e96f07a7e1694?rnum=1&q=cheetah+template&_done=%2Fgroup%2Fsubway-devel%2Fbrowse_frm%2Fthread%2F899aff22ec0cc229%2F7d6664b07f3f397f%3Flnk%3Dst%26q%3Dcheetah+template%26rnum%3D31%26#doc_7d6664b07f3f397f - ->Incidentally, one Rails-like feature that I think Cheetah does well at ->but Django (and most other templating languages) don't do, is partial ->templates. Rails has bunches of files, but in Cheetah you can just call ->a method on the template to render a small portion of the template. ->This is what Rails uses with XMLHttpRequest and innerHTML to update ->portions of a page instead of doing a page reload. - -Definately one of my favorite benefits of Cheetah Templates, since it -also makes it very easy to create a library of widgets this way. - -................ -Alex Martelli on Cheetah being used by non-programmers - -http://groups.google.com/group/comp.lang.python/tree/browse_frm/thread/f1389ceb34c3bac/b74b51767f51e5c2?rnum=31&q=cheetah+template&_done=%2Fgroup%2Fcomp.lang.python%2Fbrowse_frm%2Fthread%2Ff1389ceb34c3bac%2Fd3ee57d0e5f32dcf%3Flnk%3Dst%26q%3Dcheetah+template%26rnum%3D38%26#doc_d3ee57d0e5f32dcf - -But suppose your design intention is different -- you want your -templates to be maintained by NON-programmers, people which DO -have problems understanding the differences between the above -distinct concepts! In Cheetah, the above constructs would be - $myobject.func - $myobject.index - $myobject.attr -i.e., totally polymorphic. The Cheetah designer, on the basis of -a LOT of experience trying to have non-programmers maintain -templates, believe this extreme polymorphism makes things VERY -much easier for non-programmers - -................ -Alex Martelli -http://groups.google.com/group/comp.lang.python/tree/browse_frm/thread/f1389ceb34c3bac/b74b51767f51e5c2?rnum=21&q=cheetah+template&_done=%2Fgroup%2Fcomp.lang.python%2Fbrowse_frm%2Fthread%2Ff1389ceb34c3bac%2Fd3ee57d0e5f32dcf%3Flnk%3Dst%26q%3Dcheetah+template%26rnum%3D38%26#doc_95267ccb58124c7c - -Cheetah, OTOH, is a serious contender for the -"best of breed" Python templating utility (at least when templates -need to be maintained by non-programmers). -................ - -Alex Martelli -http://groups.google.com/group/comp.lang.python/tree/browse_frm/thread/772dbffa1b8ea81/41b8c28b430690a1?rnum=1&q=cheetah+template&_done=%2Fgroup%2Fcomp.lang.python%2Fbrowse_frm%2Fthread%2F772dbffa1b8ea81%2Fbf7cd796b3cf3818%3Flnk%3Dst%26q%3Dcheetah+template%26rnum%3D61%26#doc_bf7cd796b3cf3818 - -Aldo Cortesi wrote: ->>what are good templating systems avaliable for python? - ... -> Cheetah - http://www.cheetahtemplate.org/ -> YAPTU - http://aspn.activestate.com/ASPN/Cookbook/Python/Recipe/52305 - -Speaking as the author of YAPTU -- YAPTU is a neat little toy, but Cheetah -is a truly powerful system, particularly if your needs coincide with those -it was designed for (e.g., make it feasible for non-programmers to edit the -templates). I'd suggest looking into Cheetah (or other powerful systems -- -Cheetah looks very good to me, but I don't come close to knowing them -all!-), maybe unless you happen to be in a peculiar niche (e.g., if you -must bundle your templating system with a small app, and you don't need too -much in terms of raw power, YAPTU's tiny size may be a plus). - -................ -Peter Maas -http://groups.google.com/group/comp.lang.python/tree/browse_frm/thread/2814372528876df0/b5b8517c464a4244?rnum=1&q=cheetah+template&_done=%2Fgroup%2Fcomp.lang.python%2Fbrowse_frm%2Fthread%2F2814372528876df0%2Fc438a838081aea0a%3Flnk%3Dst%26q%3Dcheetah+template%26rnum%3D41%26#doc_c438a838081aea0a - - The elegance of the Cheetah way is how they map Python code -to placeholders. Every method and every field of an object can -be addressed in a Cheetah template. -................ -Jonathan P. -http://groups.google.com/group/comp.lang.python/tree/browse_frm/thread/adbc3058a431f1b8/5b49623e0a8c782c?rnum=31&q=cheetah+template&_done=%2Fgroup%2Fcomp.lang.python%2Fbrowse_frm%2Fthread%2Fadbc3058a431f1b8%2F3a45e7ec2e495bd2%3Flnk%3Dst%26q%3Dcheetah+template%26rnum%3D67%26#doc_3a45e7ec2e495bd2 - -Another great bonus of Spyce is that it can work with Cheetah, -the one templating system which I felt like I could live with. - -................ -Wilk -http://groups.google.com/group/comp.lang.python/tree/browse_frm/thread/aeeedc93473b9e00/c226ae2b08d2b1c4?rnum=1&q=cheetah+template&_done=%2Fgroup%2Fcomp.lang.python%2Fbrowse_frm%2Fthread%2Faeeedc93473b9e00%2F776fea58e6633b95%3Flnk%3Dst%26q%3Dcheetah+template%26rnum%3D103%26#doc_a8f7c7100764abfb - -> I am thinking of using templates -> for this like Cheetah. Is there any other better solution to Cheetah? - -There is no better solution than Cheetah - -................ -Alex Martelli -http://groups.google.com/group/comp.lang.python/tree/browse_frm/thread/a04b89c2287ca219/d8953099021eca9f?rnum=1&q=cheetah+template&_done=%2Fgroup%2Fcomp.lang.python%2Fbrowse_frm%2Fthread%2Fa04b89c2287ca219%2F8234a0c9979eb670%3Flnk%3Dst%26q%3Dcheetah+template%26rnum%3D128%26#doc_8234a0c9979eb670 - -But a real templating system is something else again. I've now -personally dumped YAPTU usage and, after careful examination of -all the various offerings around, switched to Cheetah instead. - -Give Cheetah a try. You won't regret it. -................ -Kevin Dangoor - -http://groups.google.com/group/turbogears/tree/browse_frm/thread/bb7a6115ca7028c9/4bd4ca24aa61d75c?rnum=111&q=cheetah+python&_done=%2Fgroup%2Fturbogears%2Fbrowse_frm%2Fthread%2Fbb7a6115ca7028c9%2F7bffb1c3622af7a4%3Flnk%3Dst%26q%3Dcheetah+python%26rnum%3D9%26#doc_7bffb1c3622af7a4 - -I've used Cheetah quite a bit and it's a very good package - -................ -Ron Stephens -http://groups.google.com/group/turbogears/tree/browse_frm/thread/bb7a6115ca7028c9/4bd4ca24aa61d75c?rnum=111&q=cheetah+python&_done=%2Fgroup%2Fturbogears%2Fbrowse_frm%2Fthread%2Fbb7a6115ca7028c9%2F7bffb1c3622af7a4%3Flnk%3Dst%26q%3Dcheetah+python%26rnum%3D9%26#doc_7f1b09007772bccd - -If this is to work, in my opinion, (and by "work" I mean be successful -enough to challenge Rails), then Cheetah must be enabled as an equal -templating language to Kid (at least). Kevin, you don't know me, but I -dare make this post for the good of Python. Kid may be technically -superior in every way to Cheetah (I don't know), but is the least -popular choice you made for TurboGears. Cheetah is a lot more popular. -................ -Marek Baczynski -http://groups.google.com/group/turbogears/tree/browse_frm/thread/bb7a6115ca7028c9/4bd4ca24aa61d75c?rnum=111&q=cheetah+python&_done=%2Fgroup%2Fturbogears%2Fbrowse_frm%2Fthread%2Fbb7a6115ca7028c9%2F7bffb1c3622af7a4%3Flnk%3Dst%26q%3Dcheetah+python%26rnum%3D9%26#doc_35c3ec66f9d8cb71 - -People with a strong PHP background absolutely love Cheetah for being Smarty, but much, much better. - -................ -JZ -http://groups.google.com/group/comp.lang.python/tree/browse_frm/thread/eac957ba7c426e30/3ebe6739c8c41752?rnum=31&q=cheetah+python&_done=%2Fgroup%2Fcomp.lang.python%2Fbrowse_frm%2Fthread%2Feac957ba7c426e30%2Fa3b9cd8f6cc9e640%3Flnk%3Dst%26q%3Dcheetah+python%26rnum%3D12%26#doc_d971f145521d6bb4 - -> I've seen nothing in the Python world that compares to Smarty templates - -I am using Smarty and I know it very well, but compiled Cheetah Templates -(http://www.cheetahtemplates.org) with its inheritance approach is much -powerfull and easier to use than Smarty. - -................ -JZ -http://groups.google.com/group/comp.lang.python/tree/browse_frm/thread/eac957ba7c426e30/3ebe6739c8c41752?rnum=31&q=cheetah+python&_done=%2Fgroup%2Fcomp.lang.python%2Fbrowse_frm%2Fthread%2Feac957ba7c426e30%2Fa3b9cd8f6cc9e640%3Flnk%3Dst%26q%3Dcheetah+python%26rnum%3D12%26#doc_c166b21577e3ad06 - -But, the problem is PHP itself has so many bad features that I prefer -rather Python to PHP. And I like Cheetah's inheritence aproach because it -is scales very well for complicated web pages. I can develop internet -application much faster using Python (e.g. using application, very cool and -pythonic Cherry2) and Cheetah. And because extending templates using OO -techniques is tthe feature I like, I would rather choose Cheetach than ZPT, -SimleTAL, Nevow and similar solutions. - -................ - -Alessandro Bottoni - -Florian Lindner wrote: -> How suitable is Python for these kind of projects? What do think? Does the -> stdlib offers all basic functions for this kind of requirements? - -http://groups.google.com/group/comp.lang.python/tree/browse_frm/thread/4865ad8dced9d4db/133ada37370deb55?rnum=1&q=cheetah+python&_done=%2Fgroup%2Fcomp.lang.python%2Fbrowse_frm%2Fthread%2F4865ad8dced9d4db%2Ff932e1952225168c%3Flnk%3Dst%26q%3Dcheetah+python%26rnum%3D95%26#doc_f932e1952225168c - -Regarding the template engine, the best one I'm aware of is Cheetah -................ -Carsten Saathoff -http://blog.kodemaniak.de/archives/10-Python-template-system.html -Cheetah is very powerful and flexible. -................ -Sybren Stuvel -http://www.thescripts.com/forum/post365058-2.html -> But I'd like to know your opinion on what you think is best. The -> Python framework I'll use will be to build an e-commerce -> application looking like Amazon.com - -I'm greatly in favour of Cheetah. -................ -Ray Leyva -http://wiki.w4py.org/webware-document-management-system.html - -I find working with Cheetah / Webware / Python -substantially faster ( for me! ), in development. I came from Taglibs / JSP ( -Tomcat / WebLogic? / JRun ) / XML ( XSP via Cocoon ) / Java. Personal preference -is to stick with Cheetah / Webware template applications, spitting out reportlab -PDF ... but hey they can't ( currently ) support your request of XML to PDF, or -XML to HTML, but I find it easier to work with Cheetah templates than XML / XSLT -transformations. Personal preference only. -................ -Keith Devens - -http://keithdevens.com/weblog/archive/2003/Nov/17/Python.Cheetah - -Cheetah is very nice. Good code even! - -What's especially nice about Python -- and I knew this would happen -- is that -that huge hack I had to do to get Smarty to do what I wanted is completely taken -care of with Python's operator overloading mixed with Cheetah's flexibility. - -I'm going to like working in Python. -................ -James Gardner - -http://www.pythonweb.org/projects/webmodules/doc/0.5.3/html_multipage/lib/example-file-web-template-cheetah.html - -Cheetah is a powerful, stable and well documented templating system. - -................ -Martin - -http://www.aquarionics.com/journal/2005/01/15/Mounting_Python#comment-2854 - -Check out CherryPy at www.cherrypy.org. Take with a healthy dose of Cheetah -(www.cheetahtemplate.org) and SQLObject (www.sqlobject.org). - -Martin - -................ -Andrew Glover -http://www.onlamp.com/pub/a/python/2005/01/13/cheetah.html - -It's true; XSLT isn't the be-all, end-all of templating and transformation -systems. If you use Python, consider instead Cheetah, a template engine based on -Python. Andrew Glover demonstrates its simplicity and power for producing text -in all kinds of formats. -... -Cheetah is an extremely effective Python-powered template engine that can -generate any text-based format. Cheetah's impressive yet simple template -language (based on Python) can yield the most complex of documents -... -Cheetah is surprisingly simple to use - -................ -The FEAR development team -http://fear.sourceforge.net/docs/latest/guide/Build.html#id2550573 - -Cheetah has successfully been introduced as a replacement for the overweight XSL -Templates for code generation. Despite the power of XSL (and notably XPath -expressions), code generation is better suited to Cheetah as templates are much -easier to implement and manage. - -................ - - -I'm enamored with Cheetah (did anyone get the significance of the name Mombo?) What would I lose by switching away? - -This just might be a deal breaker... ;-) - -Note: I invested a half hour here and a half hour there over the course of a week to produce what I currently have. I'm not particularly emotionally attached to it... in another few weeks I just might decide to pursue yet another technology and/or programming language. - -[P.S. Nice use of italics in your comment.] -Posted by Sam Ruby at 11:08 - - - --------------------------------------------------------------------------------- - - -http://groups.google.ca/group/comp.lang.python/browse_thread/thread/17ed53a636d55cf1/ec5d7eab42e693fc?lnk=st&q=cheetah+templates&rnum=7&hl=en#ec5d7eab42e693fc -"I was going to try and learn Kid, but I'm in a bit of a hurry, and Cheetah's much closer -to what I'm used to." -- Dave Benjamin - - -http://groups.google.ca/group/comp.lang.python/browse_thread/thread/17ed53a636d55cf1/ec5d7eab42e693fc?lnk=st&q=cheetah+templates&rnum=7&hl=en#ec5d7eab42e693fc -"Personally, I prefer to Cheetah Templates to PSP - it plays better in the OO -world, and I can use intelligent HTML/XML/SGML editors on the files." -- Mike Meyer |